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Bought this as a Valentine's day gift for my girlfriend. Build quality is fantastic, very sturdy, high attention to detail, high quality finish. Heavy for it's size but not enough to be an issue. Very simple to field strip and maintain. Hop up is a little strong at distance but the weapon is still quite accurate. Perfect for CQB. Only issues are mag related; gas cool down when you try to empty it on full auto and stop-fire selector on top of mag, both mentioned in previous reviews, both controllable if you pay attention. The mag itself is pretty solid, although at time of posting Zero One do not stock spare mags for this model. Very reliable, great for a first time GBB buyer. |
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well...
Finally skirmished mine in CQB today.
Absolutely awesome!
Yes, the mag catch thing can catch you out if you're not well on top of it as you install a new mag. Yes the mag catches can get knocked down when pulling it out of the mag pouch. Mine are fairly loose, so I didn't have too much of a problem with it. But it is worth noting, and in my opinion it's something WE should look to remedy.
It's not as disastrous as you might think, and I think I only suffered about two mag 'clicks' throughout the entire day.
There has to be an easy fix.
But that said. Baring in mind it's pretty cold today. It fared very well.
The three round burst works like a charm, the full auto is sweet as a nut. I'd say it struggles to empty a full mag before gassing out. Probably won't be an issue in warmer temperatures, but in the depths of winter, it's something to be aware of.
The recoil is sturdy and gives a positive amount of feedback. Certainly has a very nice feel to it.
Coupled with a nice shoulder harness the pointability of this thing is perfect.
The range is pretty good, and having had the chance to crono this on Propane, it's running closer to 340-350fps than the advertised 300-310. I still had it over-hopping ever so slightly on 0.25's. But that didn't matter due to the ranges in CQB.
So consider your gas choice, or think about installing an N-PAS valve.
I scored a number of very good kills and was able to sweep up opposition very nicely, even against the AEG Hi-Cap crowd.
I can confirm it is a VSR style hop rubber, although WE have used their own, with a slightly different nub, closer to an A+ style square nub.
So that bodes well.
And Hark! The Magazine isn't the right shape! Did I notice.... Not a jot. So that one can be put to bed. Don't worry, the slight difference really doesn't impact of the functionality of this rifle.
All in all, I've had a damned fine day, very enjoyable with some very good results.
Very pleased with this little Kurz.
few little things that could be improved upon. But then isn't that always the case.
I'll still give it a 4/5.
With the mag catch thing sorted, and a slightly higher RoF, this would easily be a 5/5. |
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I've always been a fan of the 'Kurz'. Don't ask me why, because I generally don't like MP5's on the whole.
I've always been a fan of gas guns, again don't ask me why because generally they are a pain, full of inconsistency, leaky mags, seals etc etc.
So why on earth would I ever want to get a gas MP5??
Well, after having both a Kurz AEG and the gas Maruzen MP5k (and the Well one), and thoroughly enjoying both of them despite their foibles, it seemed only logical.
I'd been waiting for the WE 5k for a while since our resident "Gas Deviant" Kenny mentioned there was one coming out.
And when one came up at a bargain price, I just had to take the plunge.
So... as with all reviews, we have to mention the box (don't ask me why?).
It's sturdy, box like and has a picture of an Apache Helicopter on the front. Tick!
The Kurz itself.
It's a weighty beast for it's size, and this is due to it's steel and polymer construction. No cheap monkey metal around here! (not on the outside at least).
The upper receiver and mag well are tidily made from pressed steel with some very neat weld lines and decent markings. The foresight detailing is crisp and the rear sight is nice and functional. The steel cocking handle is nice and sturdy and operates with a suitable clunk. There is the obligatory sling loop on the rear.
The lower receiver is made from a good quality polymer that feels robust. It has a very good finish with no noticeable seam lines or imperfections. The ambidextrous fire sectors are in the "Navy" style and it rotates smoothly between the 'safe, semi, 3 round burst and auto' marks.
The fore grip is made from the same polymer and is nice and tight.
It's held together with steel pins and strips in the same fashion as the real Kurz.
I haven't really done an inspection of the innards at this point.
The Hop is adjusted via a knurled ring underneath the fore grip. Simple and effective. My understanding is that it uses a VSR style rubber, which only bodes well.
No complaints at this point... 9/10.
Magazines.
I only have the standard 30 rounders at the moment.
They are made from metal and like all gas mags are nice and weighty.
There is no feed port, so it's reloaded through the top, which can be a bit of a pain in the backside. The spring is good and powerful, which only makes reloading them even more of a pain.
Now, there are a couple of funny levers on the outside of the magazine, which are there to serve the 'stop firing on empty' function. It would appear as though this needs to be reset each time it is loaded otherwise you end up with a 'dead mans click' even with a fully loaded magazine (I'll demonstrate this later). So this in my opinion is a bit of a bind, and could be designed better. Also, as it stick out proud from the back of the magazine, it could easily be inadvertently switched whilst getting the magazine out of a pouch and if you don't check it before putting it in the mag-well, well.... You know where that leads!
Also a couple of the mags were leaky already. Whilst this doesn't surprise me, it is a mild annoyance.
So. Mags, solidly made, design could possibly be better, better seals wouldn't go amiss. 5/10
Firing...
Insert the Magazine with the bolt held open. Click the bolt release home with a satisfying clunk and you're ready to rock and roll.
I've filled the mag full with from a fresh can of Propane. The temp outside was pretty cold (about 5 degrees) and non of the mags or gas had been pre-heated prior to testing.
The Kurz fires with a nice snappy report and the recoil, whilst good, isn't massive. Suitable but not overwhelming.
I haven't had chance to measure the range or crono it yet, but anyone who knows my garden will be able to judge. It fired quite nicely from my Garage to out the top of the garden into the woods beyond (easily). The hop was still a little aggressive on 0.25's even in it's fully off position and floated them up a touch. No biggy as it may settle down, or I just use a slightly heavier ammo.
For a Barrel length that is as long as a cigarette, the accuracy was surprisingly good with it flying straight and true (apart from the over hop).
3 Round Burst. Probably the best function of this little gun. Superb. A Faultless 'clack clack clack' spitting out three beebs in quick succession. The rate of fire isn't as mental as the Maruzen Kurz, but still good enough.
Full auto. As you'd expect. Keep the trigger down to empty the mag in no time what so ever.
There was an element of 'cool down' when firing the burst in quick succession or the full auto. From a fresh fill in cold weather, I managed to squeeze out about 2/3rds of the mag before I suffered cool down. After leaving the mag for a while, I was able to empty a whole mag, but only just. Warmer weather and a bit more 'mag preparation' is probably going to be the order of the day.
This is really only to be expected though, it is a GAS gun after all. They have their foibles, and you have to learn to live with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeeOPcR9_z0
This is what happens when you don't flick the lever on the back of the bag before putting it in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLSTJi4fdQ
Initial impressions.
The 5k is a neat little compact primary. It's well built and superbly detailed (despite the slight skew on the mags that people have pointed out). It feels great in the hand and functions as it should. The slightly over complicated mag stop system may prove to be a little annoying unless you can really get into the habit of checking them before they go in, and making sure the bolt is open before inserting a new mag.
So this is not for the drill sloppy or the spray and pray merchants. It really is a 'professionals' item. It will require work and attention, keeping on top of leaky mags and the such like. And it will require some switched on thinking when using it.
But it fires straight and true, with a good recoil and sound to keep a decent sense of immersion and amusement.
Time will tell how it holds up to skirmishing, and how practical this magazine thing is.
at the moment, out of the box... 7/10. |
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